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		<title>By: kimbee</title>
		<link>http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/why-organic-labels-can-be-a-turn-off/comment-page-1/#comment-541142</link>
		<dc:creator>kimbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann - if you don&#039;t like the message - don&#039;t shoot the messenger!  Learn from the message to strenghten your work.  Learn from the fact that your style of communication is not getting results (you are appealing to too few people!) and consider how to become more effective.  Try visiting http://valuesandframes.org/about/

Kimbee- experimenting with genes as you propose could have some merit in a guaranteed closed envirnment (a very very secure lab run by people we could trust) but you want to use my world, my garden, my kitchen, my body as your laboratory - this I cannot accept - I will not be your laboratory animal.  As to your false proposal that it is to feed the starving masses - either you are one of the many naive who swallow the grasping businessmen (they seek to keep the poor in poverty through GM licenses) - or you are one them.  I shall fight you all the way! 

Lilah - you sum up the label issue very well.  We have to use inteligence and diligence to understand and use them - the stakes are too high to ignore them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann &#8211; if you don&#8217;t like the message &#8211; don&#8217;t shoot the messenger!  Learn from the message to strenghten your work.  Learn from the fact that your style of communication is not getting results (you are appealing to too few people!) and consider how to become more effective.  Try visiting <a href="http://valuesandframes.org/about/" rel="nofollow">http://valuesandframes.org/about/</a></p>
<p>Kimbee- experimenting with genes as you propose could have some merit in a guaranteed closed envirnment (a very very secure lab run by people we could trust) but you want to use my world, my garden, my kitchen, my body as your laboratory &#8211; this I cannot accept &#8211; I will not be your laboratory animal.  As to your false proposal that it is to feed the starving masses &#8211; either you are one of the many naive who swallow the grasping businessmen (they seek to keep the poor in poverty through GM licenses) &#8211; or you are one them.  I shall fight you all the way! </p>
<p>Lilah &#8211; you sum up the label issue very well.  We have to use inteligence and diligence to understand and use them &#8211; the stakes are too high to ignore them!</p>
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		<title>By: Lilah</title>
		<link>http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/why-organic-labels-can-be-a-turn-off/comment-page-1/#comment-490752</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labels of any kind are going to give off a different impression for everyone individually. I don&#039;t think that can be entirely avoided. It&#039;s just part of human perception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labels of any kind are going to give off a different impression for everyone individually. I don&#8217;t think that can be entirely avoided. It&#8217;s just part of human perception.</p>
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		<title>By: kimbee</title>
		<link>http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/why-organic-labels-can-be-a-turn-off/comment-page-1/#comment-489442</link>
		<dc:creator>kimbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann Fonfa - what do you have against GM food producers? Every kind of farmed vegetable that you eat - organic or not - is genetically modfied I can assure you of that. It used to be called selective breeding and it has been going on for thousands of years. Nowadays we have a much quicker way of doing things which involves selecting the genes we need fir the perfect food product. GM, in comparison to selective breeding is much more efficient, breeding in a characteristic can take many generations - which is not only time but water and resources also. We can also insert special genes that can make the crops resistant to diseases.
Yes I agree with you, it would be lovely if we could all grow our own food in perfectly natural conditions, but I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve noticed we have a slight problem with food. The planet is overcrowded and the population is only getting bigger, and guess what? WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FOOD.
So yes it&#039;s very nice to get on your high horse and say that the companies producing GM food are just trying to make more money, but unless food is grown faster then everyone is going to starve. So yes, pesticides are bad I agree. But the alternative is that crops are destroyed, food and land and water are wasted. Or we engineer them to be resistant. 
We simply do not have the resources to grow food naturally. Not if we want all 7 billion of us to eat.
And if you&#039;re the type of person who thinks that messing about with genes is going to lead to the creation of some sci-fi abberation then I suggest that you stop advising cancer patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann Fonfa &#8211; what do you have against GM food producers? Every kind of farmed vegetable that you eat &#8211; organic or not &#8211; is genetically modfied I can assure you of that. It used to be called selective breeding and it has been going on for thousands of years. Nowadays we have a much quicker way of doing things which involves selecting the genes we need fir the perfect food product. GM, in comparison to selective breeding is much more efficient, breeding in a characteristic can take many generations &#8211; which is not only time but water and resources also. We can also insert special genes that can make the crops resistant to diseases.<br />
Yes I agree with you, it would be lovely if we could all grow our own food in perfectly natural conditions, but I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve noticed we have a slight problem with food. The planet is overcrowded and the population is only getting bigger, and guess what? WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FOOD.<br />
So yes it&#8217;s very nice to get on your high horse and say that the companies producing GM food are just trying to make more money, but unless food is grown faster then everyone is going to starve. So yes, pesticides are bad I agree. But the alternative is that crops are destroyed, food and land and water are wasted. Or we engineer them to be resistant.<br />
We simply do not have the resources to grow food naturally. Not if we want all 7 billion of us to eat.<br />
And if you&#8217;re the type of person who thinks that messing about with genes is going to lead to the creation of some sci-fi abberation then I suggest that you stop advising cancer patients.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Fonfa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Fonfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I founded and run as a full-time volunteer, a cancer advocacy nonprofit Annie Appleseed Project with a focus on natural strategies for cancer.

I would like to know WHO the funders were for these quite absurd studies and their ridiculous conclusions.

There is a movement via the Genetically-Modified food producers and their customers, to confuse the public.  This fits right in.  It&#039;s a bit silly overall.  Expecting organic food to taste worse simply means people do not understand what organic means.  Organic means NO artificial chemicals were used - no pesticides (designed to kill bugs with chemical poisons, no herbicides - designed to kill plants with chemical poisons.
How could we NOT be better off without poisons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I founded and run as a full-time volunteer, a cancer advocacy nonprofit Annie Appleseed Project with a focus on natural strategies for cancer.</p>
<p>I would like to know WHO the funders were for these quite absurd studies and their ridiculous conclusions.</p>
<p>There is a movement via the Genetically-Modified food producers and their customers, to confuse the public.  This fits right in.  It&#8217;s a bit silly overall.  Expecting organic food to taste worse simply means people do not understand what organic means.  Organic means NO artificial chemicals were used &#8211; no pesticides (designed to kill bugs with chemical poisons, no herbicides &#8211; designed to kill plants with chemical poisons.<br />
How could we NOT be better off without poisons?</p>
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