Comments on: Why modest guys might not get the job http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/why-modest-guys-might-not-get-the-job/ Research news from leading universities Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:12:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: The Job Culture http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/why-modest-guys-might-not-get-the-job/comment-page-1/#comment-32566 The Job Culture Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:02:24 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=15815#comment-32566 As we better understand the proverb that STYLE MAKES A MAN .It is 100% true at least for now days. As we normally distinguish one person from other the way they have their dressing style As we better understand the proverb that STYLE MAKES A MAN .It is 100% true at least for now days. As we normally distinguish one person from other the way they have their dressing style

]]> By: Houtoog http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/why-modest-guys-might-not-get-the-job/comment-page-1/#comment-15585 Houtoog Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:25:39 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=15815#comment-15585 I retired in my early 50's having made enough money in the business world to be financially independent. One of my deliberate strategies in my career was to be modest. Despite what the Rutgers researcher might think, being modest gives one many advantages. I found that it often led to people underestimating me, to their own peril. This can be very useful in negotiation. The test for good management is whether you can look behind the modesty and find the real person. You do not have to shout and perform to be effective. I retired in my early 50′s having made enough money in the business world to be financially independent. One of my deliberate strategies in my career was to be modest. Despite what the Rutgers researcher might think, being modest gives one many advantages. I found that it often led to people underestimating me, to their own peril. This can be very useful in negotiation. The test for good management is whether you can look behind the modesty and find the real person. You do not have to shout and perform to be effective.

]]> By: Rick http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/why-modest-guys-might-not-get-the-job/comment-page-1/#comment-15421 Rick Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:01:26 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=15815#comment-15421 1. The modest men are less liked than *what* control group? Modest women only? So how are we supposed to know that the men were liked less because they are *modest*, and not because they are men, or something else? What we need is a control with men of roughly equal physical appearance who are *less* modest. 2. "The researchers’ prediction that modest male applicants would face hiring discrimination was *not* supported." That's kind of important to leave to the last sentence in the article, don't you think? Shouldn't that be the lead of this story? 3. What was the result? Were the women liked twice as much as the men? Slightly more? Did the results vary by whether the observer was male or female? Also pretty important. She may be right, but this article gives us no data on which to make that judgment. It does have a lot of opinion, though. 1. The modest men are less liked than *what* control group? Modest women only? So how are we supposed to know that the men were liked less because they are *modest*, and not because they are men, or something else?

What we need is a control with men of roughly equal physical appearance who are *less* modest.

2. “The researchers’ prediction that modest male applicants would face hiring discrimination was *not* supported.” That’s kind of important to leave to the last sentence in the article, don’t you think? Shouldn’t that be the lead of this story?

3. What was the result? Were the women liked twice as much as the men? Slightly more? Did the results vary by whether the observer was male or female? Also pretty important.

She may be right, but this article gives us no data on which to make that judgment. It does have a lot of opinion, though.

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