Comments on: Men who batter think other guys do, too

By: ty_ping

ty_ping — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:56:54 +0000

I’m not really surprised.
Considering research has already shown that people who’s parents are abusive tend to be abusive themselves, and our parents are pretty much the blueprint for our own relationships later, is it any wonder that a kid, especially when they grow to be an abusive spouse themselves, would think that their home life would be the norm? (More-so considering the level of general violence that people still joke about in regards to one another?)

By: Jeff Satterley

Jeff Satterley — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:42:00 +0000

I’m curious if these men act they way they do because they perceive it at “normal” or what the average person would do, or if they believe its normal because they do it. Sort of like confirmation bias. They batter women, and they notice when others do it too more so than the examples of men who do not, so it seems more prevalent to them. The fact that humans are notoriously bad at regarding anecdotal evidence over evidence from data also adds to this problem.

By: Cold North Wind

Cold North Wind — Mon, 24 May 2010 07:59:17 +0000

I instantly thought of a snarky comment-(s) but, actually, I agree. The normalization of a behaviour-the -”everybody is doing it” theme song that I have heard all my life. First heard in teens- boys/men looking for free sex- I know of a child rapist- got ideas-at least some- from a huge collection of child porn. Today’s society with the sexed up images used to sell- everything- can lead young people to think- well- everybody is doing it – -

By: other anne

other anne — Sat, 22 May 2010 19:51:22 +0000

Anne S and Causal – there’s a study published recently about that too. If you ask men if they, say, plot to get women super inebriated or use physical force such as pinning or arm twisting in order to have sex with them about one in six of them will say yes. If you ask those same guys if they rape women, they’ll say no.

By: Anne S

Anne S — Sat, 22 May 2010 16:53:04 +0000

@Causal, that raised my eyebrows too, but I’m betting the phrase “had sex when the partner did not want to” was lifted straight from the questionnaire given to the men in question. I’m guessing an abuser is far more likely to cop to that language than the word “rape,” especially when he sees his behavior as average.

By: Steve Allen

Steve Allen — Wed, 19 May 2010 01:41:07 +0000

This study confirms the notion that non-abusive men need to speak up appropriateoy confront their violent/abusive brothers. This will help “normalize” the reality that most men are not violent or abusive toward women and that all men need to be part of the solution. San Diego used to have a group of men who stood for this proposition: Men’s Leadership Forum: Solutions to Gender-Based Violence. More funding needs to be found to establish and nurture these types of groups.

By: Walter DeKeseredy

Walter DeKeseredy — Mon, 17 May 2010 12:19:35 +0000

These results are very consistent with my own research on the strong correlation between male peer support and woman abuse. Male peer support refers to the attachments to male peers and the resources that these men provide which perpetuates and legitimates various types of male-to-female abuse.

By: Radical Feminist

Radical Feminist — Mon, 17 May 2010 03:32:51 +0000

This is a brilliant study. The more we talk about the underlying social causes the more we can dismantle violence. More please!

By: Causal

Causal — Mon, 17 May 2010 00:23:04 +0000

“Had sex when the partner did not want to”.

Just say rape. :/ That’s what it is, not a partner ‘disagreement’ on who wanted to because they are together.

By: celia kozlowski

celia kozlowski — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:33:01 +0000

Did the study collect data on men with no history of abusive behavior to compare how they estimate the prevalence of abusive behavior with how the abusers estimate it?