Comments on: Good parents wanted: All genders apply http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/ Research news from leading universities Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:12:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: JB Donovan http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-10798 JB Donovan Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:39:31 +0000 http://futurity.org/?p=7776#comment-10798 What I'm talking about isn't just common knowledge but common personal experience. I've had decades of experience as a son, as a father, as the brother of a sister who has children, as the neighbor of people with children, and so on, and my experience isn't at all unusual. We're not talking about the Hottentots here or what happens when you remove stop signs. There's a huge myth around all this, which is that sexual differences stop at the stage of propagation -- that's they just pertain to anatomy -- but you'd have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to observe that men and women are difference, and vive la difference. The connections between social problems and the economy (such as joblessness) are fairly weak, whereas those connected to lack of a father are extremely strong. What I’m talking about isn’t just common knowledge but common personal experience. I’ve had decades of experience as a son, as a father, as the brother of a sister who has children, as the neighbor of people with children, and so on, and my experience isn’t at all unusual. We’re not talking about the Hottentots here or what happens when you remove stop signs. There’s a huge myth around all this, which is that sexual differences stop at the stage of propagation — that’s they just pertain to anatomy — but you’d have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to observe that men and women are difference, and vive la difference. The connections between social problems and the economy (such as joblessness) are fairly weak, whereas those connected to lack of a father are extremely strong.

]]> By: M@ http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-10727 M@ Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:51:50 +0000 http://futurity.org/?p=7776#comment-10727 I dunno, my dad had some phat female friends, and I was a stay-at-home dad with a 6-month old baby girl during the dot-com bust while on unemployment. I found both enjoyable. See Wikipedia entry on common knowledge/obvious logic, paying particular attention to the fallacy section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_knowledge Many times common logic/knowledge just ain't reliable: e.g. if you remove all the stoplights/signs in a town, it does not become more dangerous, but SAFER. I dunno, my dad had some phat female friends, and I was a stay-at-home dad with a 6-month old baby girl during the dot-com bust while on unemployment. I found both enjoyable.

See Wikipedia entry on common knowledge/obvious logic, paying particular attention to the fallacy section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_knowledge

Many times common logic/knowledge just ain’t reliable: e.g. if you remove all the stoplights/signs in a town, it does not become more dangerous, but SAFER.

]]> By: JB Donovan http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-10726 JB Donovan Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:25:58 +0000 http://futurity.org/?p=7776#comment-10726 This is one of those cases where certain ivory-tower people can directly contradict obvious logic. Anyone who can remember his mother when he was little knows perfectly well that if she was suddenly replaced by one of Dad's friends would regard the event as miserable if not catastrophic. This is one of those cases where certain ivory-tower people can directly contradict obvious logic. Anyone who can remember his mother when he was little knows perfectly well that if she was suddenly replaced by one of Dad’s friends would regard the event as miserable if not catastrophic.

]]> By: JB Donovan http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-10703 JB Donovan Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:44:44 +0000 http://futurity.org/?p=7776#comment-10703 the heart of the heart of the whole thing is that human beings need to have the influence of a mother's parenting style AND a father's parenting style or else they are handicapped to the extent that one is lacking. Dr. Kyle Pruett of Yale in his book called Fatherneed spells it out from that viewpoint and Brenda Hunter in The Power of Mother Love spells it out from the other side. Kids need the softness of a mother and the roughhousing of a father, or as Carol Gilligan of Harvard says, fathers stress rules, mothers relationships, fathers fairness, mothers sympathy. Boys who grow up with fathers are less likely to be violent because they learn from fathers how to affirm and channel masculinity properly. Kids need the constant experience of the complementary parenting styles, and all the meddling of church and state to nullify that is damaging. the heart of the heart of the whole thing is that human beings need to have the influence of a mother’s parenting style AND a father’s parenting style or else they are handicapped to the extent that one is lacking. Dr. Kyle Pruett of Yale in his book called Fatherneed spells it out from that viewpoint and Brenda Hunter in The Power of Mother Love spells it out from the other side. Kids need the softness of a mother and the roughhousing of a father, or as Carol Gilligan of Harvard says, fathers stress rules, mothers relationships, fathers fairness, mothers sympathy. Boys who grow up with fathers are less likely to be violent because they learn from fathers how to affirm and channel masculinity properly. Kids need the constant experience of the complementary parenting styles, and all the meddling of church and state to nullify that is damaging.

]]> By: Jill http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-10700 Jill Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:32:30 +0000 http://futurity.org/?p=7776#comment-10700 JB - Where are those numbers from? Citations would be good. Thanks JB – Where are those numbers from? Citations would be good. Thanks

]]> By: JB Donovan http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-10694 JB Donovan Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:49:30 +0000 http://futurity.org/?p=7776#comment-10694 The prisons are five times larger today than in the Sixties, and much of that has to do with the fact that a father commands the respect of an older boy in a way that a mother cannot, and fathers are not on the scene half as much as they were before. Girls without fathers twice as likely to become promiscuous and pregnant when they are lacking the kind of love and structure that a father provides. The prisons are five times larger today than in the Sixties, and much of that has to do with the fact that a father commands the respect of an older boy in a way that a mother cannot, and fathers are not on the scene half as much as they were before. Girls without fathers twice as likely to become promiscuous and pregnant when they are lacking the kind of love and structure that a father provides.

]]> By: Jill http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-6755 Jill Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:14:39 +0000 http://futurity.org/?p=7776#comment-6755 Study link leads to abstract and citation. I've found that this is usually the case with the Futurity reports. Study link leads to abstract and citation. I’ve found that this is usually the case with the Futurity reports.

]]> By: elmer http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/good-parents-wanted-all-genders-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-6318 elmer Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:23:38 +0000 http://futurity.org/?p=7776#comment-6318 can we have proper citations please? I find the articles here informative but I'm leery of quoting them as futurity is … well an unquantified unkown can we have proper citations please? I find the articles here informative but I’m leery of quoting them as futurity is … well an unquantified unkown

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