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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/adults-more-than-kids-rely-on-the-supernatural/comment-page-1/#comment-124802</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think of my life as a series of great feats, but it has never been boring to me and I have seen a lot of people and places.

As I admitted, one size [description] does not fit all. 

Come to think of it, I know lots of artistic types that know some technology, but I have difficulty coming up with any hard core scientist I have met that is skilled in a creative art. A bunch of them I know like music. 

Maybe they are like Heinlein’s Lazarus Long character and think that art is something you do privately behind closed doors, never tell anyone, and wash your hands when you finish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think of my life as a series of great feats, but it has never been boring to me and I have seen a lot of people and places.</p>
<p>As I admitted, one size [description] does not fit all. </p>
<p>Come to think of it, I know lots of artistic types that know some technology, but I have difficulty coming up with any hard core scientist I have met that is skilled in a creative art. A bunch of them I know like music. </p>
<p>Maybe they are like Heinlein’s Lazarus Long character and think that art is something you do privately behind closed doors, never tell anyone, and wash your hands when you finish.</p>
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		<title>By: kimbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you certainly do get around. I can&#039;t claim such great feats, however, I do have a wide circle of friends within the European Art community and, on a number of occasions, have acted as a technical advisor on a number of projects. In my experience, I have found that the artistic community has a fascination with science and technology, and on the whole tend to be well informed. A very good friend of mine who now works as an artist full-time sat next to me in my maths and physics classes in college and helped me as much as I helped her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you certainly do get around. I can&#8217;t claim such great feats, however, I do have a wide circle of friends within the European Art community and, on a number of occasions, have acted as a technical advisor on a number of projects. In my experience, I have found that the artistic community has a fascination with science and technology, and on the whole tend to be well informed. A very good friend of mine who now works as an artist full-time sat next to me in my maths and physics classes in college and helped me as much as I helped her.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobel Prizes.
I hate auto spel korrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobel Prizes.<br />
I hate auto spel korrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/adults-more-than-kids-rely-on-the-supernatural/comment-page-1/#comment-124682</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My evidence is in sixty years of life, including teaching Physics at a University, in the Military, working NASA programs, working in the Aerospace Industry, as Law Enforcement officer, working Film and Television production, living at various times in places from the Arctic to Antarctica, Europe, the Middle East and North Africa. I have been with primitive natives all the way to knowing a couple of guys that have Noble Prizes.

One size of course does not fit all, however as a generalization I have observed;

People with a background in science tend not to accept any explanation of a phenomena other than a &quot;Scientific Theory” even if to justify some of those beliefs the theory has to include particles or energies that no one has yet been able to detect or measure. &quot;We know they are there, we just haven&#039;t been able to detect them with our current technology!&quot;

People without training in science are much more prone to say &quot;God did it&quot; or &quot;It&#039;s Magic.&quot;

I watched a program last night about Evil Places. Some researchers went into areas that the native population had legends of as being cursed places from which people should stay away.  Turns out several of them contained pitchblende, which is a uranium ore and one had cinnabar which is a mercury ore. 

If you camped on the pitchblende your hair and teeth fell out. If you camped on cinnabar you went insane. Scientific explanation would be radiation poisoning and heavy metal poisoning. The natives said you were cursed by evil spirits. 

This is simply two viewpoints of dealing with the same phenomena. They are both valid. I am perfectly happy agreeing with some native that radiation and heavy metals are Bad JuJu and you should stay away from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My evidence is in sixty years of life, including teaching Physics at a University, in the Military, working NASA programs, working in the Aerospace Industry, as Law Enforcement officer, working Film and Television production, living at various times in places from the Arctic to Antarctica, Europe, the Middle East and North Africa. I have been with primitive natives all the way to knowing a couple of guys that have Noble Prizes.</p>
<p>One size of course does not fit all, however as a generalization I have observed;</p>
<p>People with a background in science tend not to accept any explanation of a phenomena other than a &#8220;Scientific Theory” even if to justify some of those beliefs the theory has to include particles or energies that no one has yet been able to detect or measure. &#8220;We know they are there, we just haven&#8217;t been able to detect them with our current technology!&#8221;</p>
<p>People without training in science are much more prone to say &#8220;God did it&#8221; or &#8220;It&#8217;s Magic.&#8221;</p>
<p>I watched a program last night about Evil Places. Some researchers went into areas that the native population had legends of as being cursed places from which people should stay away.  Turns out several of them contained pitchblende, which is a uranium ore and one had cinnabar which is a mercury ore. </p>
<p>If you camped on the pitchblende your hair and teeth fell out. If you camped on cinnabar you went insane. Scientific explanation would be radiation poisoning and heavy metal poisoning. The natives said you were cursed by evil spirits. </p>
<p>This is simply two viewpoints of dealing with the same phenomena. They are both valid. I am perfectly happy agreeing with some native that radiation and heavy metals are Bad JuJu and you should stay away from them.</p>
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		<title>By: kimbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;People with liberal arts majors or those who have not had any university training are much more open to having faith in supernatural explanations for the way the universe operates.&#039;

Where is your evidence for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;People with liberal arts majors or those who have not had any university training are much more open to having faith in supernatural explanations for the way the universe operates.&#8217;</p>
<p>Where is your evidence for this?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you would have to define what you mean by educated. 

People with advanced schooling in scientific/mathematic disciplines tend to have faith in scientific principles. People with liberal arts majors or those who have not had any university training are much more open to having faith in supernatural explanations for the way the universe operates.

Over the years I have met some highly educated people who believed what I considered to be really goofy shit. I try not to antagonize them about it, because some of them are fanatical about their beliefs and might want to fight over them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you would have to define what you mean by educated. </p>
<p>People with advanced schooling in scientific/mathematic disciplines tend to have faith in scientific principles. People with liberal arts majors or those who have not had any university training are much more open to having faith in supernatural explanations for the way the universe operates.</p>
<p>Over the years I have met some highly educated people who believed what I considered to be really goofy shit. I try not to antagonize them about it, because some of them are fanatical about their beliefs and might want to fight over them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sundew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sundew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I hope this is a joke. Faith in supreme beings (if such is needed) is well enough in mderation, but to believe in a first-world country that witches cause AIDS?? I had no idea that the American education system was quite this messed up. Do educated people really believe there is no difference between evidence-based Scientific discovery, and superstitions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I hope this is a joke. Faith in supreme beings (if such is needed) is well enough in mderation, but to believe in a first-world country that witches cause AIDS?? I had no idea that the American education system was quite this messed up. Do educated people really believe there is no difference between evidence-based Scientific discovery, and superstitions?</p>
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		<title>By: kimbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be assuming a lot about me. I said that I am not a physicist, I did not say that I was a layman. I understand your point and we do not entirely disagree. I enjoy hearing the opinions of others, particularly when they differ from my own. I do not enjoy being patronised.

P.S. A retrovirus (HIV) causes the disease AIDS just so&#039;s you know
P.P.S Once again, honoured to be your source of amusement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be assuming a lot about me. I said that I am not a physicist, I did not say that I was a layman. I understand your point and we do not entirely disagree. I enjoy hearing the opinions of others, particularly when they differ from my own. I do not enjoy being patronised.</p>
<p>P.S. A retrovirus (HIV) causes the disease AIDS just so&#8217;s you know<br />
P.P.S Once again, honoured to be your source of amusement</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not offended, just amused.

I am a physicist and there are lots of current hypothises and theories that you take on faith. Even mathematical proofs are sometimes later shown to be invalid.

I believe a virus causes HIV, but I couldn&#039;t prove it. I just have faith in the medical researchers that publish papers that have declared it a virus based disease. 

If some bruja [witch] tells a vaquero [cowboy] his ailment is caused by una espíritu [a spirit] I couldn&#039;t disprove that either, but I would still think it was a virus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not offended, just amused.</p>
<p>I am a physicist and there are lots of current hypothises and theories that you take on faith. Even mathematical proofs are sometimes later shown to be invalid.</p>
<p>I believe a virus causes HIV, but I couldn&#8217;t prove it. I just have faith in the medical researchers that publish papers that have declared it a virus based disease. </p>
<p>If some bruja [witch] tells a vaquero [cowboy] his ailment is caused by una espíritu [a spirit] I couldn&#8217;t disprove that either, but I would still think it was a virus.</p>
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		<title>By: kimbee</title>
		<link>http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/adults-more-than-kids-rely-on-the-supernatural/comment-page-1/#comment-114752</link>
		<dc:creator>kimbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 13:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately not and I&#039;m not a physicist so can&#039;t say I&#039;m an expert on string theory. Didn&#039;t mean to cause offense (maybe my use of the word metal was a bit harsh but I did say religious and mental, I did not mean to imply that I think religious people are mental) I just meant that faith in something that is not tangible or measurable is comparable to superstition. I&#039;d say my &#039;blind&#039; faith (or just faith) is in mathematics and it&#039;s application. &#039;Science&#039; is the world as interpreted by humans and therefore is as fallible as we are. 

However, I do feel that the evidence for AIDS being caused by the transmission of HIV is much stronger than the evidence that it is caused by witches. I think it is very important that people know about these things so that they can protect themselves from infection. I was very surprised by the article, I&#039;ve never come across those kind of superstitious beliefs before and the only time I&#039;ve spent in the US was with trees.

I&#039;ll be sure to mind my flippant comments in future, I&#039;ve often been told that I have a crap sense of humor. Glad to have caused you amusement though Old man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately not and I&#8217;m not a physicist so can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m an expert on string theory. Didn&#8217;t mean to cause offense (maybe my use of the word metal was a bit harsh but I did say religious and mental, I did not mean to imply that I think religious people are mental) I just meant that faith in something that is not tangible or measurable is comparable to superstition. I&#8217;d say my &#8216;blind&#8217; faith (or just faith) is in mathematics and it&#8217;s application. &#8216;Science&#8217; is the world as interpreted by humans and therefore is as fallible as we are. </p>
<p>However, I do feel that the evidence for AIDS being caused by the transmission of HIV is much stronger than the evidence that it is caused by witches. I think it is very important that people know about these things so that they can protect themselves from infection. I was very surprised by the article, I&#8217;ve never come across those kind of superstitious beliefs before and the only time I&#8217;ve spent in the US was with trees.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be sure to mind my flippant comments in future, I&#8217;ve often been told that I have a crap sense of humor. Glad to have caused you amusement though Old man.</p>
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