Comments on: Natural gas exports could backfire for US http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/ Research news from leading universities Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:39:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Alexandra http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-701182 Alexandra Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:54:22 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=246662#comment-701182 An impressive share! I've just forwarded this onto a co-worker who was doing a little research on this. And he actually bought me breakfast due to the fact that I stumbled upon it for him... lol. So allow me to reword this.... Thanks for the meal!! But yeah, thanx for spending the time to discuss this subject here on your web page. Feel free to visit my blog post - Alexandra An impressive share! I’ve just forwarded this onto a co-worker who was doing a little research on this. And he actually bought me breakfast due to the fact that I stumbled upon it for him… lol. So allow me to reword this…. Thanks for the meal!! But yeah, thanx for spending the time to discuss this subject here on your web page.

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]]> By: KimFeil http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-529972 KimFeil Thu, 27 Dec 2012 00:04:46 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=246662#comment-529972 T Boon Pickens himseldf said that exporting LNG cost about $7 per mcf T Boon Pickens himseldf said that exporting LNG cost about $7 per mcf

]]> By: Paul Roden http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-524462 Paul Roden Mon, 24 Dec 2012 04:33:52 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=246662#comment-524462 No one is considering the cost of clean up from accidents and leaks, cleaning and storing the billions of gallons of waste water, the NORM in the drill cuttings, the VOC's in the fracking fluid and gas, the radon in the natural gas, the leaks, noise and explosions along the pipeline, pumping stations, and finally the global warming from the CO2 and leaked methane gas. Also the cancer, heart disease and respiratory diseases to citizens at the wellpad sites. Has anybody looked at the work of Jacobson and Dilucchi? Their Nolv 2009 Scientific American and their March 2011 articles in Energy Policy? Their research shows that we can convert the world to renewable energy by 2030 without fossil or nuclear fuel? Fracking is too dangerous, too expensive and is totally unnecessary for our energy needs. Fracking is just like nuclear power. Think about the cost of the watershed permanently destroyed by the greedy gas drillers who only care about the quick fast buck. The price of clean water is too high for cheap natural gas that will only last 50-100 years and climate change. No one is considering the cost of clean up from accidents and leaks, cleaning and storing the billions of gallons of waste water, the NORM in the drill cuttings, the VOC’s in the fracking fluid and gas, the radon in the natural gas, the leaks, noise and explosions along the pipeline, pumping stations, and finally the global warming from the CO2 and leaked methane gas. Also the cancer, heart disease and respiratory diseases to citizens at the wellpad sites. Has anybody looked at the work of Jacobson and Dilucchi? Their Nolv 2009 Scientific American and their March 2011 articles in Energy Policy? Their research shows that we can convert the world to renewable energy by 2030 without fossil or nuclear fuel? Fracking is too dangerous, too expensive and is totally unnecessary for our energy needs. Fracking is just like nuclear power. Think about the cost of the watershed permanently destroyed by the greedy gas drillers who only care about the quick fast buck. The price of clean water is too high for cheap natural gas that will only last 50-100 years and climate change.

]]> By: Levis Kochin http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-521702 Levis Kochin Sun, 23 Dec 2012 04:34:13 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=246662#comment-521702 Investments in LNG export facilities (like anything else) may turn out not to be profitable. That is not a reason to ban them. If Wolak's advice would have been taken in 1970 Silicon Valley would be a commercial desert and Stanford Univ, would be a much poorer institution. One gain it might not have been financially able to employ Wollak. The existing model for natural gas exporters is for the exporter to find buyers to pay US Natural Gas prices plus a margin to cover capital and operating costs. The buyers hedge in forward markets if they prefer to fix the price in $ or Yen or barrels of oil. Investments in LNG export facilities (like anything else) may turn out not to be profitable. That is not a reason to ban them. If Wolak’s advice would have been taken in 1970 Silicon Valley would be a commercial desert and Stanford Univ, would be a much poorer institution. One gain it might not have been financially able to employ Wollak.
The existing model for natural gas exporters is for the exporter to find buyers to pay US Natural Gas prices plus a margin to cover capital and operating costs. The buyers hedge in forward markets if they prefer to fix the price in $ or Yen or barrels of oil.

]]> By: John G. Dzwonczyk, PE, CFPS http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-518052 John G. Dzwonczyk, PE, CFPS Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:44:58 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=246662#comment-518052 While I agree that we’d like to use our “embarrassment of [natural gas] riches” domestically in transportation, Professor Wolak apparently doesn't take into account that the investment in natural gas fueling yet to be made is not insignificant, nor can it be accomplished overnight. Additionally, his fear of the investment risks in export terminals seem overblown—investors in such things can factor those risks into their calculus. Americans can indeed produce natural gas worldwide, and it will take a combination of import and export terminals worldwide to ensure stable energy prices worldwide, which is a net benefit for all of us. The problem with not greenlighting LNG exports is one where interest in increasing domestic production would be (to use a term) chilled, if outlets were constrained. Of course, the incarceration of domestic gas production does serve the plastics industry's interests, but these are fairly parochial. As I have said many times: “Either have a free market or don’t.” I have also noted that home filling stations might be of interest on the farm or in remote areas, but are just like home petroleum filling—you can, but should you? What we really need is CNG (and LNG) at first class refueling locations. All other possibilities incur similar costs without the potential of similar rewards. While I agree that we’d like to use our “embarrassment of [natural gas] riches” domestically in transportation, Professor Wolak apparently doesn’t take into account that the investment in natural gas fueling yet to be made is not insignificant, nor can it be accomplished overnight. Additionally, his fear of the investment risks in export terminals seem overblown—investors in such things can factor those risks into their calculus. Americans can indeed produce natural gas worldwide, and it will take a combination of import and export terminals worldwide to ensure stable energy prices worldwide, which is a net benefit for all of us.

The problem with not greenlighting LNG exports is one where interest in increasing domestic production would be (to use a term) chilled, if outlets were constrained. Of course, the incarceration of domestic gas production does serve the plastics industry’s interests, but these are fairly parochial. As I have said many times: “Either have a free market or don’t.” I have also noted that home filling stations might be of interest on the farm or in remote areas, but are just like home petroleum filling—you can, but should you? What we really need is CNG (and LNG) at first class refueling locations. All other possibilities incur similar costs without the potential of similar rewards.

]]> By: Lauren Swain http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-517732 Lauren Swain Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:12:49 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=246662#comment-517732 Methane releases from expanded natural gas production are contributing significantly to greenhouse effect. Until we figure out how to curb methane emissions from drilling and fracking, studies show that there will be no net reduction in damage to the climate by switching to natural gas. We must also eliminate exemptions for natural gas production from federal environmental laws such as the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, and Safe Drinking Water Act. Until this is done, we should not allow the expansion of fracking in this county. If technology is developed and implemented that would allow fracking to be done without polluting the air and water, we should reserve all fuels extracted on federal land for domestic use. That includes oil as well. As of now, the lack of appropriate regulation is allowing oil and gas companies to put communities, water supplies, and sensitive environments at great risk across the country. The practice must stop until it is appropriately researched and regulated. Methane releases from expanded natural gas production are contributing significantly to greenhouse effect. Until we figure out how to curb methane emissions from drilling and fracking, studies show that there will be no net reduction in damage to the climate by switching to natural gas. We must also eliminate exemptions for natural gas production from federal environmental laws such as the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, and Safe Drinking Water Act. Until this is done, we should not allow the expansion of fracking in this county. If technology is developed and implemented that would allow fracking to be done without polluting the air and water, we should reserve all fuels extracted on federal land for domestic use. That includes oil as well. As of now, the lack of appropriate regulation is allowing oil and gas companies to put communities, water supplies, and sensitive environments at great risk across the country. The practice must stop until it is appropriately researched and regulated.

]]> By: tom winchester http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-516962 tom winchester Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:27:28 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=246662#comment-516962 I fully support using our natural gas that is in abundant supply and inexpensive. I also support export of this natural resource. Using our technology to invent new ways to power our lives will continue to be worked on even as we use up our carbon based fuels. I fully support using our natural gas that is in abundant supply and inexpensive. I also support export of this natural resource. Using our technology to invent new ways to power our lives will continue to be worked on even as we use up our carbon based fuels.

]]> By: mia http://www.futurity.org/earth-environment/natural-gas-exports-could-backfire-for-us/comment-page-1/#comment-516642 mia Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:19:56 +0000 http://www.futurity.org/?p=246662#comment-516642 Even at a 3rd. A little at a time. Nothing happens over night. Even at a 3rd. A little at a time. Nothing happens over night.

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